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mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one, romney. the left-leaning slate.com's john dickerson calling it the best moment of mitt romney's campaign. obama supporter andrew sullivan calls it the president's worst public performance bar none of his campaign. "time" magazine's joe kline asked did the president send out his body double tonight. critical reviews across the board. the consensus and also the political reality now staring team obama in the face. there is also no denying that no matter who wins or loses a given debate, each side immediately tries to convince you and us that their candidate came out ahead. there's even that designated spin room, the one in denver, and yes, they actually call it that, the spin room. which is everyone's way of saying with a wink and a nod that we know that you know that we know that you know that we're trying to bamboozle you. again, that's a given. both times spin. but
mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one, romney. the left-leaning slate.com's john dickerson calling it the best moment of mitt romney's campaign. obama supporter andrew sullivan calls it the president's worst public performance bar none of his campaign. "time" magazine's joe kline asked did the president send out his body double...
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romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to ju
romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what...
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chris: when he walks onto the debate stage wednesday night, mitt romney will now he's behind. know he needs to catch up. needs to win the night. what can he show of himself that he hasn't shown before and what does he need to show of barack obama that we don't already know? seeing is believing. the three times the debates have changed the lead in a presidential race. each time it was about the words, but also that something else, something that told voters what they didn't know and all of a sudden mattered a lot. and finally, bad numbers. barack obama's ahead in nearly every national poll and battle ground state poll. but what do we really make of the crunchers who say mitt romney has just a 1-5 chance to win this election? hi, i'm chris mathews. welcome to the show. with us today, new york magazine's john, trish and kelly and the huffington post's d howard. with just over a month to go for mitt romney, given the polls, the debates may be it. it could change the narrative that has dogged him or cemented. romney has the same urgent must-do list that he at the republican convent
chris: when he walks onto the debate stage wednesday night, mitt romney will now he's behind. know he needs to catch up. needs to win the night. what can he show of himself that he hasn't shown before and what does he need to show of barack obama that we don't already know? seeing is believing. the three times the debates have changed the lead in a presidential race. each time it was about the words, but also that something else, something that told voters what they didn't know and all of a...
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the consensus seems to be that mitt romney was that last night. what put him in that position? >> mitt romney helped himself and came across as very energetic, he was concise, even funny in a lot of his answers. the format actually ended up benefiting him because you elevate the challenger. president obama has been campaigning with the air force one, being able to ride on air force one, having the presidential seal at his podium. now mitt romney was elevated to president obama's level. i was reminded in 2004 when john kerry was challenging george w. bush and we saw a similar debate performance where the challenger came out swinging, did very, very well. the incumbent president was a little bit on his heels mainly because sometime you're not used to being challenged by somebody in that type of setting. so we move to the next debate. it seems like mitt romney did very well on style, although substance might have been a different matter. >> speaking of substance, a lot of people thought this debate was more informative, but did these issues and ideas connect to the voters? >> i th
the consensus seems to be that mitt romney was that last night. what put him in that position? >> mitt romney helped himself and came across as very energetic, he was concise, even funny in a lot of his answers. the format actually ended up benefiting him because you elevate the challenger. president obama has been campaigning with the air force one, being able to ride on air force one, having the presidential seal at his podium. now mitt romney was elevated to president obama's level. i...
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governor romney didn't attack the president the entire night. governor romney stayed on his message whoever stays on message will be viewed as the victor. i'm sure that vice president biden has been coached to get back on message and go after paul ryan. how much he will do that we'll see. i'm sure that congressman ryan has been preparing on the policy side and preparing mentally for this. this is the first time he will have been on this stage. i think both men will be very prepared. >> and. >> chris: briefly looking ahead to the next presidential debate on october 16 nine days from now you have to know that obama will be much more aggressive to show that was just a bad night. if you are his coach briefly what do you tell obama to do and if you of romney's coach how do you tell him to prepare for a much more aggressive president? >> if you are the president, you have got to get on offense. you have to use the things that have been successful to this point for them in the campaign. it was shocking that he didn't go into the 47% remark or bain capi
governor romney didn't attack the president the entire night. governor romney stayed on his message whoever stays on message will be viewed as the victor. i'm sure that vice president biden has been coached to get back on message and go after paul ryan. how much he will do that we'll see. i'm sure that congressman ryan has been preparing on the policy side and preparing mentally for this. this is the first time he will have been on this stage. i think both men will be very prepared. >>...
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because the other thing about romney last night is he came across as incredibly smart. this is a guy who clearly knows better. this is a guy who is clearly shading the truth because he can. not because he's ignorant or somehow doesn't quite grasp his own policies like we might have thought george w. bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not turn to him and say if you do not plan to add a $5 trillion revenue loss what loopholes will you close? give us the broad brush outlines because without that, you don't have credibility. it would have seemed to me to be the appropriate response. >> absolutely. he could have just kept pressing him and i -- before the debate, my whole view was the president needs to spend little bit of time on defense and then just go on the offense. because mitt romney is so vulnerable to attacks not only on his current policies but on his previous policies and in being a flip-flopper and certainly his time
because the other thing about romney last night is he came across as incredibly smart. this is a guy who clearly knows better. this is a guy who is clearly shading the truth because he can. not because he's ignorant or somehow doesn't quite grasp his own policies like we might have thought george w. bush had trouble with. >> eliot: you're right. romney came across as smart. that's what affected it. doug, my question was every time i heard the $5 trillion gig, why did the president not...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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. >> that same night, romney gave a press conference explaining what he meant. >> so it's a question and answer as i recall about the process of the campaign and how i'm going to get the 51 or a 52% i need. >> so, was actually all just a lot of hull la ba lu about electoral math, the quote i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility was mere lay comment on process. romney went on to say that video represented nothing new. >> you're coming to my fund-raisers and this is the same message i give to people which is we have a very different approach, the president and i, between a government dominated society and a society driven by free people pursuing their dreams. >> but by last night, romney had a completely different take on his own position. he acknowledged that writing off half of the country as government moochers including students, elderly and military veteran,sin veterans was wrong. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. i
. >> that same night, romney gave a press conference explaining what he meant. >> so it's a question and answer as i recall about the process of the campaign and how i'm going to get the 51 or a 52% i need. >> so, was actually all just a lot of hull la ba lu about electoral math, the quote i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility was mere lay comment on process. romney went on to say that video represented nothing new. >> you're coming to my...
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go like a pro. >>> mitt romney and president obama face off in their first debate tomorrow night. a look at their weak points and what each needs to do to win. es. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know it. ...i propose savings for everyone! i'm talking hundreds here... and furthermore.. newcaster: breaking news. the gecko is demanding free pudding. and political parties that are actual parties! with cake! and presents! ah, that was good. too bad nobody could hear me. geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. >>> let's dig deeper. when president obama and mitt romney take the stage in denver tomorrow night, how they look, what they do during the debate may speak louder than what they actually say, or as loudly. research in fact suggests their body language will speak volumes. amy cuddy is an associate professor at harvard business school who studies how people perceive others and what shapes the impressions we have of others. she joins me now. you say that when it comes to
go like a pro. >>> mitt romney and president obama face off in their first debate tomorrow night. a look at their weak points and what each needs to do to win. es. in celebration of over 75 years of our government employees insurance company, or geico...as most of you know it. ...i propose savings for everyone! i'm talking hundreds here... and furthermore.. newcaster: breaking news. the gecko is demanding free pudding. and political parties that are actual parties! with cake! and...
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>> first of all, as governor romney pointed out last night, the mayo clinic is a private institution run by people privately who do things efficiently, which is very different than the federal government, which has rampant waste. i helped co-author a book called "stop paying the crooks" a few years ago which pointed out in new york state medicaid, 10% of the money goes to pay for fraud. >> we're talking about medicaid, not medicare. >> medicare's the same problem. >> i'm jumping in. unlike jim last night, i mean it when i jump in. >> i'm very proud of you. we're proud of you. >> you will be unsurprised to hear you have been speaking more, newt. not by a lot. when we come back, jennifer will get her lion's share of the time to respond to it and we will have more red meat to toss on the barbecue, including the future life or death of big bird. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this sou
>> first of all, as governor romney pointed out last night, the mayo clinic is a private institution run by people privately who do things efficiently, which is very different than the federal government, which has rampant waste. i helped co-author a book called "stop paying the crooks" a few years ago which pointed out in new york state medicaid, 10% of the money goes to pay for fraud. >> we're talking about medicaid, not medicare. >> medicare's the same problem....
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and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get away with the actual debate. it wasn't too funny. and i said it would cause him problems. >> no doubt, maitt romney was a his best tonight but it's not good enough. when you take what he said tonight and compare it to his proposals, to what he has said, to what he's represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what he said tonight. so how are we going to be impressed with someone that made a very passionate and a very articulate series of lies tonight? there's been so much focus on the president's debate performance but i continue to believe that governor romney did serious damage to his candidacy that n
and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get...
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fact checkers are having a good day, today. >> did you listen to governor romney last night? they discovered the middle class! my god, there it is! >> no coincidence... >> mitt romney... >> we began with news the u.s. unemployment rate dropped to lowest level in nearly four years. >> president barack obama: this morning, we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. >> if the same share of people were participating in the workforce, today, as on the day the president got elected, our unemployment rate would be around 11%. >> president barack obama: today's news certainly is not an excuse to try to talk down the economy. to score a few political points. >> find to have someone elected president who has a plan and will create 12 million jobs and rising incomes. >> that is a serious statement... [cheers and applause]. >> chris: and there will be a lot more fireworks, in these final 30 days, of the campaign. now, a program note: be sure to tune into this fox station an fox news channel for full coverage of this week's vice presidentia
fact checkers are having a good day, today. >> did you listen to governor romney last night? they discovered the middle class! my god, there it is! >> no coincidence... >> mitt romney... >> we began with news the u.s. unemployment rate dropped to lowest level in nearly four years. >> president barack obama: this morning, we found out that the unemployment rate has fallen to its lowest level since i took office. >> if the same share of people were...
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will romney keep his cool or lose his temper. and roger stone is a romney doubter. bob costa, let me begin with you, buddy. president obama before this night is over is going to call him bush, he's going to talk about the 47%, he's going to talk about bain capital. it could get ugly. will mitt romney hold his cool and keep his temper in check? >> well, larry, i've been hanging out with romney world all day. romney's goal is two-fold. heap needs to be aggressive on policy but stay presidential and be likable. >> if mitt military comes out aggressive and i hope he does, i want him to take charge of this debate from the get-go, will he do it -- will he still be the gentleman mitt or are we going to see something that we haven't seen before that was cooked up by all the brilliant guys in his campaign is. >> he wants to be gentleman mitt to an extent. he does not want to get bogged down on distractions. if obama starts to bring up bain capital and tax returns, romney wants to stay on the big themes of the economy. >> supposed obama comes after romney on bain capital, rom
will romney keep his cool or lose his temper. and roger stone is a romney doubter. bob costa, let me begin with you, buddy. president obama before this night is over is going to call him bush, he's going to talk about the 47%, he's going to talk about bain capital. it could get ugly. will mitt romney hold his cool and keep his temper in check? >> well, larry, i've been hanging out with romney world all day. romney's goal is two-fold. heap needs to be aggressive on policy but stay...
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the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the final day of the season. we'll have that and the rest of the playoff picture in sports. >> the red sox almost did that last night. >>> before we get to sports, let's check in with music city, usa, where it's 5:38 in the morning. jon meacham, are you still awake and with us? >> oh, hey. >> good. jon, where's lunch today? if i were you, i'd go to rotier's or loveless, but your call. >> i'm a longtime rotier's fan. the other is ledbetter's. >> don't forget, rotier's has american cheese and crackers as their lead appetizer. >> ritz. that's the difference. that's the difference. think of the markup on that
the romney of last night or the romney of the past two months? >> this has to give him a lift, right? >> yeah, a lift, the confidence that he didn't have before, perhaps. we'll see. >> jim vandehei, thanks so much, jim. we'll talk to you later. >> take care. >>> coming up next, it only took them 162 games, but the oakland a's last night caught up and passed the texas rangers. >> that's unbelievable. moneyball. >> capturing the a.l. west title on the...
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what does governor romney need to do wednesday night in the first debate. >> he needs to give the american people the choice we are offering. that is what we are doing. we owe the country a country clear choice of a different future. we can either have a dynamic, growing economy, that produces opportunity, or, we can have a stagnant economy this fosters dependency and can stick with the failed policies of the last four years, the next four years and we need a brighter future. stagnation versus growth. dependency, versus opportunity, and upper mobility. that is the classic choice, the clear difference we are offering, and so what we hope people get out of this debate, is that choice. >> chris: well, it is interesting, because for the lasting, i don't know six months the romney campaign said this is the referendum on barack obama's record. now you are saying, it is a choice. >> it is not a change in strategy, it is' phase of the campaign we've entered into, because i think it is important, the president is trying to paper over his problems. the president has been trying to mislead and distor
what does governor romney need to do wednesday night in the first debate. >> he needs to give the american people the choice we are offering. that is what we are doing. we owe the country a country clear choice of a different future. we can either have a dynamic, growing economy, that produces opportunity, or, we can have a stagnant economy this fosters dependency and can stick with the failed policies of the last four years, the next four years and we need a brighter future. stagnation...
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it's because i care about education for all of our kids. >> mitt romney last night's debate talking about education as governor of massachusetts. duval patrick followed romney as governor. he's co-chairman of the obama campaign and one of the president's staunchest defenders. what did he make of president obama's debate performance? he joins me now. governor, the general consensus seems to be your man took one hell of a shellacking. >> i think the president had a good debate but i think romney had a better one, to tell you the truth, especially on style points. we know governor romney from our time here in massachusetts, his time here in massachusetts. we know him to be a very effective salesman and he was selling. the problem is what he was selling won't actually do what he says it will do. it will not grow opportunity from the middle out. >> tell me this, though. i remember when we spoke at the dnc convention, you said, you made a big speech, we talked about it afterwards, time for the party to show some backbone. by party, obviously including the president. last night he didn't seem to
it's because i care about education for all of our kids. >> mitt romney last night's debate talking about education as governor of massachusetts. duval patrick followed romney as governor. he's co-chairman of the obama campaign and one of the president's staunchest defenders. what did he make of president obama's debate performance? he joins me now. governor, the general consensus seems to be your man took one hell of a shellacking. >> i think the president had a good debate but i...
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here's a sample from last night. >> it has been calculated his tax plan raising taxes will cost 700,000 jobs. i will not raise taxes on small business and not raise taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: he will spend a little more time in florida and campaign here tomorrow and he has been doing a bit of debate prep with rob portman, the senator from ohio and his debate sparring... playing the role of mr. obama and, monday, big foreign policy speech at the virginia military institute in virginia, and criticizing the president on foreign policy with specific criticisms of the way in which the administration handled the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya, meant to signal romney will continue to attack the president on the economy, and jobs, but, also on foreign policy and all of the issues, of being commander-in-chief. in the 2012 campaign. >> arthel: thank you very much, a big crowd waiting for mitt romney and the president had no public events today but his campaign says that it has noted stopped him from shattering a major record. carl mentioned this earlier. septem
here's a sample from last night. >> it has been calculated his tax plan raising taxes will cost 700,000 jobs. i will not raise taxes on small business and not raise taxes on middle income families. >> reporter: he will spend a little more time in florida and campaign here tomorrow and he has been doing a bit of debate prep with rob portman, the senator from ohio and his debate sparring... playing the role of mr. obama and, monday, big foreign policy speech at the virginia military...
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you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having to defend an economic plan that is really problematic for him, particularly given his record and particularly given the republican base. going forward, doesn't he have the burden to defend what he did the other night? >> he does. i assume what is going on here is romney said, look, with the hard right thing, we are down in the key states. we're down overall. this isn't working. well, let's bring back that etch-a-sketch campaign. will americans believe suddenly this man that's been saying one thing for the last year or two is now believed something entirely different? he's simply walked away from the who
you said that romney was lying on wednesday night. now, that's possible or it's possible he's now telling the truth and the others were lies. you can't have a tax cut of that size and not add to the deficit because there are not enough loopholes to close to get you to that point. >> dana, isn't that the problem? he comes out of this debate having three at trically won a score in terms of the night but now he's got the problem of having to defend an economic plan that is really problematic...
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>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one of them, every pundit was saying that he lost. some saying he lost decisively. some saying he lost so badly, it could cost him the election. to me, it's hyperbolic. it speaks to the fact mitt romney changed the narrative of the campaign. >> what does it mean, jim, for mitt romney. if we accept he won the night last night, how does he make it about more than one night and a turning point in the campaign? >> i can't emphasize how big last night was for mitt romney. you have to view it from the mitt romney that came into the debate. conservatives were down on him. his sta
>> there's no doubt mitt romney had the night of his political night. he had to have the night he had last night. i can't think of a debate in the 20 years covering this where the gap between the two candidates was this wide. mitt romney turned in a strong performance and the president turned in an uneven performance. the disparity led to a perception that president obama lost the debate. if you look at the commentary, not from the right, but people who love barack obama, almost every one...
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that is the romney to look for in debate stage wednesday night. you have to be aggressive and pivot point of the campaign. there hasn't been storylines breaking romney's way for the last couple of weeks. >> bret: yeah. gdp revision on 1.3% didn't get a ton of coverage. but a huge deal. >> enormous story. at this point in the recession, i mean if you look -- of the recovery, if you look at the reagan recovery, the economy was exploding 6.7% increase in growth. we have deceleration. 2.4% in 2010. 1.8% last year. for the first quarter of this year, 2%. now this revision downward. to 1.3%, anemic an indicates we are actually heading to a stall. that is something that romney ought to highlight because the media certainly haven't. >> bret: charles, a.b., rick, thank you from washington. next up, we will turn to journalists from here in colorado. on the presidential race. arapahoe county and what colorado means in the big picture. bob, these projections... they're... optimistic. productivity up, costs down, time to market reduced... those are good things
that is the romney to look for in debate stage wednesday night. you have to be aggressive and pivot point of the campaign. there hasn't been storylines breaking romney's way for the last couple of weeks. >> bret: yeah. gdp revision on 1.3% didn't get a ton of coverage. but a huge deal. >> enormous story. at this point in the recession, i mean if you look -- of the recovery, if you look at the reagan recovery, the economy was exploding 6.7% increase in growth. we have deceleration....